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Egypt RAC winners cup

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Author: john hornby Tuesday, 23 January 2018

Egypt RAC winners cupHi, i recently bought at auction a very large winners cup, and would like to learn more about its history.
The cup stands 2foot tall at the handles and the bowl is 9inches in diameter, silver plate (no hall marks) 
The inscription on the front reads :- COUPE CHALLENGE CIRCUIT DU DESERT, offerte par, MOHMED TAHER PACHA, president du royal automobile club.
I have discovered who Mohamed Taher was, he also was a founding member and president of the Egyptian olymics board. Not much info about him really, and no pictures.
On the back of the cup it reads:-
1934 Robert Khayat sur Ford
1935 George Pharaon sur Renault
          Latino Tozzi Condivi sur Fiat (Balilla)
1936 Behrendt Von Homeyer sur D.K.W.
1937 Lattino Tozzi  Condivi sur Fiat (Balilla)
          Raoul Kanah                 sur Fiat (Balilla)
1938 Lattino Tozzi Condivi sur Fiat (Balilla)

I guess the war stopped further races, Id like to know who the winners were, and pictures or info on them or their cars would be great, And any information regards the Coupe Challenge Circuit Du Desert would be great. many thanks in advance.
I'm guessing its a bit of a mystery as to how this cup ended up in Perth Western Australia, Probably one of Lattion's relatives brought it here as he was the last winner.


Brake Shoe - What is it?

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Author: Jonathan Sierakowski Friday, 12 January 2018

Brake Shoe - What is it?Greetings Prewarcar!

I have had this brake shoe for 10-15 years, I saved it from a whole box of domestic (American) brake shoes because it was so different.

The casting is unusual and I can't find any markings except for a "27" or "2-7" and a "B" or "8" within a circle. There is also another casting that doesn't show well in pictures that could be "TV" and then some other characters.

Any thoughts from the community appreciated!

Jonathan Sierakowski


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Author: Lucas Howard Monday, 08 January 2018

PackardI have no idea what this old packard tank goes to. Any help would be great. 

Desmo Fuel Gauge

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Author: Christoph Röhrs Sunday, 10 December 2017

Desmo Fuel GaugeA few years ago I found this petrol gauge at Beaulieu. It is like the well-known Hobson or King-Seeley fuel gauges working with hydrostatic pressure created and maintained by a special tank transmitter unit. I was able to find the patent for this tank transmitter, but no further information about the gauge itself. It is presumably an aftermarket item that has not been included in any series equipment. I would like to know when these instruments were offered in catalogues, advertisements or elsewhere. Michael Worthington-Williams had kindly published my search query in the last issue of THE AUTOMOBILE, but unfortunately I haven't received a response to it yet. Therefore my request to the readers of this wonderful site for all sorts of information about this apparently very rare part.
Christoph Röhrs, Harsum, Germany


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Author: classicmercedesbenz Sunday, 10 December 2017

Does anybody have any information about coachbuilders "Liddle & Johnston" in Edinburgh. Probably 1910-1920.

Question Rosalie

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Author: Rick de Berg Monday, 04 December 2017

Question Rosalie

I've got a 1933 Citroen Rosalie that I would like to restore but the biggest problem now, it the dutch registration.
I've been to the dutch RDW who did some checks and found out that there is no number in the chassis and therefore he cannot complete the registration.
I do have the engine number. Does anybody know how I can find out about the history of the car? And how to get a license plate on it?

Thank you, Rick.

ik heb nu een tijdje een Rosalie uit 1933 in de schuur staan. die ik wil restaureren.
nu zit ik met 1 probleem er zit namelijk nog geen kenteken op.
de RDW is wel al langs geweest voor een identiteits onderzoek en hij kwam ook tot de conclusie
omdat er geen chassisnummer ingeslagen staat het een moeilijk verhaal word.
hij heeft het chassis en carrosserie gelabeld, en de nummers die op het motorblok staan opgeschreven.vervolgens heeft hij contact opgenomen met de RDW in Frankrijk en hij zei dat dit een lang verhaal gaat worden.
Even later heeft hij bevestigd via de telefoon dat het niet mogelijk is om de geschiedenis te achterhalen zonder chassisnummer.
Met andere woorden er komt op deze manier geen kenteken op de rosalie,en ik moet zelf navraag gaan doen ( bij de franse RDW ) of er ergens nog een chassisnummer bekend is. Nu lijkt dit voor mij nog moeilijker als particulier dan dat dit RDW zelf zou doen. 
heeft er iemand misschien een idee of tips hoe ik hiermee moet omgaan en ik alsnog een kenteken op de roslaie kan krijgen.het zou immers zonde zijn als deze auto nooit meer de weg op komt.
Bijvoorbaatdank. Rick

De Dion Bouton type ?

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Author: D.G Sunday, 19 November 2017

De Dion Bouton type ?This weekend I buy a very special saw ! The chassis is a De Dion Bouton approximately of 1901-1904, do you have any idea of the exact type ?

The frame has been cut on the front ...


Baillard engine question

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Author: Dinus Voß Wednesday, 15 November 2017

Ballaird engine questionDinus Voß is looking for info about this engine. He bought it as is but has no idea about it yet. 
The make is Baillard
He thinks it is built around 1898 
Cast iron engine with Hottube ignition

Is it for a car, bike or stationary engine? And if a bike or car, which one would it belong to. And are there still cars around with this engine?
Looking forward to your response.

What is it.

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Author: richard Biddulph Wednesday, 08 November 2017

What is it.Can anyone identify this 6 cylinder engine & its approximate year?  It is in a 1930 Chrysler chassis aluminium bodied special.

We suspect it to be a 3.0 litre continental engine but have no direct proof nor experience in identifying such things.


Gearbox "automobilette"

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Author: Dominique Barbault Saturday, 28 October 2017

Gearbox "automobilette"Can you help me ?
I don't now frow witch car this gearbox come from.
There is 2 gears and reverse.
This separate gearbox is fitted on a tubular chassis.
The Phoebus Aster is called "automobilette" perhap this part come from this car !!

Thanks for your help


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